Mickey loved his Harley. May 7, 2013 As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. Did you boo him or make fun out of him? How good were they? Lolich was a newcomer that was a big loser, and he reminded us of how stupid the Mets management was for always going after fading superstars. HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. Stacy Lolich and John Ellenbrook, 22, of Lake Orion were charged last July with stealing the items from her parents home in Washington, Mich. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. senor ortiz The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. I used to think that Lolich sucked with the Mets, but after reviewing his stats and starts from that year, he was a damn effective #4 starter. They ran alcohol from Canada thru Detroit during the Prohibition era. Believe me if he pitched like the ace he was in Detroit no one here would have been so quick to criticize the trade. Lolich hit a home run in the World Series- and so what does that mean, that he was a great hitter? I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. When he was with the Mets, I gave him the name "TOO MUCH EATER" but then again the Orange and Blue has always had big boned hurlers (El Sid. Shari April 30, 2009 Donut Shops Beverages Restaurants. Feat Fan Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. 6'1", 170???? That would make him a star in today's market. Only two others, Steve Carlton and Randy Johnson, have surpassed him. Jim Snedeker That would make him a star in today's market. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. Mickey pitched to a poor 8-13 record but he also had a 3.22 ERA which is pretty damn good. I remember as a 11 year old when the Mets traded for him thinking "Great, we have Mickey Lolich! As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. (thankfully returning in '81). Peter Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. June 11, 2003 The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. The two 13-inning games didn't even count for complete games because they went 15 innings! Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. Lolich won complete games in Games 2 & 5 and faced and beat Gibson and the St. Louis Cardinals in Game 7 by the score of 4-1 as the Tigers won the World Championship. July 15, 2016 May 7, 2013 Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. He led the Tigers to their second last-place finish in their 76-year history. April 23, 2003 The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. As a kid collecting baseball cards and watching ballgames in the '70s, I remember being struck by Lolich's belly. June 30, 2019 Mickey had a lifetime 3.44 ERA and 2832 strikeouts. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. July 15, 2016 Shickhaus Franks The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. May 6, 2003 As a 44-year-old with a beer belly, I can relate. Shickhaus Franks In San Diego they had a fan club for him called the Mickey Lolich Gut Club. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. murphy April 24, 2003 Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. Gary from Chesapeake All of you New Yorkers are forgetting how the Tigers fared in this deal of Staub/Lolich. He had a 2.59 ERA at the end of July. Jim Snedeker Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Lolich's main purpose was to pitch and he couldn't even do that for us. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Raymond Malcuit However, Mets management, in their infinite wisdom, wanted to trade Rusty Staub so badly, that they were willing to get anything in return, and actually had to go to great lengths to convince Lolich to come to the Mets. bob saunders But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. In that same year he went 13, 13, 12, 11 and 10 innings in 5 games. What an interesting parallel, huh? Mickey was featured riding his motorcyle. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. "I never had a lifelong desire to be the Pillsbury Doughboy," Lolich says. John, we know the condition the team was in when Lolich got here. bob saunders You can't be serious. I wish the Mets had a pitcher today with a 3.22 ERA. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. Raymond Malcuit Jr. April 23, 2003 July 15, 2016 Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. Bob P God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Fact is Lolich was always overweight. I looked him up in The Sports Encyclopedia 2002 and they have 6' and 210 lbs. Mickey was a fantastic pitcher for the Tigers. October 13, 2008 He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk. Mickey was a great pitcher but was not happy in New York. 6'1", 170???? As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. In my opinion, there are only three candidates for worst trade in Mets history:1) Staub for Lolich 2) the Ryan trade 3) the Seaver tradeI believe the Seaver trade was the worst, for obvious reasons. March 2, 2003 Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? I'll start with full disclosure: I was (and still am) bitter that the Mets gave up one of my favorite players, Rusty Staub, to get Lolich-- who was well past his prime. A Staub-Kingman combo would have provided more run support for big three, and probably a 90+ win season. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. December 20, 2019 pete December 13, 2007 November 10, 2002 He easily could have won 15 or more games with any support at all. October 4, 2006 Bob P He started 45 games and completed 29. Other than some one saying he ate donuts rather than come back to NY, does anyone know the real reason why he didn't pitch in 77? body would be a pretty slender person. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Fattest guy ever to grace a Mets uniform It would appear that the one party who was jobbed in the deal was Lolich himself. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. (And of course Donald Grant) The Mets had to fill 2 corner outfield spots and first base. April 6, 2012 He may have left behind a fine legacy in Detroit but when he got to New York he stunk.You weren't happy with Rusty and we weren't happy with Lolich, so let's just call the trade a wash. Case closed. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. He was overweight and kind of babyfaced but I don't remember anyone being more focused or a battler. . And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. He never had much to say about Lolich's donut shop though. Use tab to navigate through the menu items. The fact of the matter is New York is a what have you done for me lately kind of city, and when Lolich came to the Mets he pitched like a nobody. The Mets traded the best player they ever had for a bunch of stiffs. NO WAY he was 170 pounds. Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. I saw Lolich pitch at Shea on July 29, 1976, a Thursday afternoon game following morning showers, probably a getaway game, attended by a sparse crowd of 12,588. Staub a great fielder with a great arm? Precut pieces were pulled by horses across the ice in the winter and were built in the spring. Featuring Bob Gibson in MVP form, Al Kaline, and Mickey Lolich, it was baseball at its best. According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170.
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